We dont have time for debates about which one is first. I didnt know everything 7 years ago either but I have grown and learned new things about God and His Word in the past 7 years, as is normal for a growing believer. The Holy Trinity isnt Jesus, Paul, and Chuck. So if I wanted to be like Paul I could stretch the truth and claim that Marco Barrientos was my worship teacher- but really that would be name-dropping in order to impress people!, Quote from The Atlantic Monthly Magazine, January 1999 Article titled What is the Koran? by Toby Lester. The Astounding Conversion of Paul Yet when I site a blatant argument that Peter and Paul are having is an argument Shammi and Hillel schools had, between each other youre mute. The Zealots were against the Political oppressors, the Sadducees were complacent and the Pharasees were die hard conservatives that had a history of killing over the strict preservation of the law (Polhill 27-28). Nave's Topical Index. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. [Philippians 3:12-13] (Response- They say third times a charm. What else do we know about him? (Mark was intimately connected with Peter since the beginning of the Church, and he acted as scribe for Peter and other Apostles who were illiterate at in their younger years. He came so we can turn from darkness And into His glorious light. Gods commandments are found in the Law of Moses and the Prophets, which Jesus came to FULFILL, (not to abolish, as the false apostle Paul the Pharisee taught.) Jesus as the Messiah was not so much a liberal view, as one of supposed profane or contemptuous speech, i.e. Being a Pharisee did not disqualify you from believing in Yeshua. According to Jesus, which Commandment is the Most Important? On page 38 Polhil writes, Paul certainly showed more the attitude of the zealots than of Gamaliel. Polhil also mentions in Phillipians 3:5-6, Paul refers to his persecuting in close connection with his zeal for the law. Polhil then mentions that a modern Zionist would have a yearning for the independence of the nation and the restoration of the glory of the temple by the Messiah. After reading our sections it seems to me that although Paul studied under Gamaliel, his actions resembled more closely to the Shammaite party. But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. We cannot be completely certain exactly which Scriptures Paul meant in All Scripture, and what Paul meant by God-breathed. Why cant we be certain? Law. In Acts 5:34 he appears as an advocate of the nascent congregation of Jesus' disciples in Jerusalem and is called "a Pharisee, a teacher of the Law, held in honor by all the people.". I also was struck by the context in Pauls frequent use of athletic analogies. This post is about how God continued to prepare Paul for his mission through his studies at the feet of Gamaliel.. Phillip J. Long- Sorry i have nothing to learn from replacement theology or of Constantine Christianity followers who believe that somehow eventhough the book is filled with Jews or converts practicing Judaism is magically replaced by ridiculous made up church doctrine. I choose to believe the testimony of multiple eyewitnesses who walked with Jesus and who knew Jesus personally. How likely is it that the acknowledged leaders of the church today could come to such unanimous theological agreement? Well Maybe that spirit isnt the Holy Spirit of Jesus, maybe you are bound in spirit by the evil spirit of Paul the Pharisee. Paul states hes a Pharisee Acts 23:6 Paul States he kept Torah, the law through out his life Acts 25:7-8 and 28:17, Paul circumcises Timothy after the town rebukes Timothy for going into ministry uncircumcised (Acts 16:1-3) Paul attends synogogue faithfully (acts 17:1-2) Paul adhering to Passover (acts 18:21-22 and 1 Cor. Yes, Christians are the new Pharisees and because of Paul will never figure it out. Like Brad Young, he is deeply influenced by David Flusser but unlike Flusser and Young, he is less in touch with mainstream Jewish scholarship. (Eph. He left James as Nassi of his Sanhedrin, who is a Pharisee. Is it possible that Paul did conceive of certain individual missions against Christians as consistent with a rendering of mercy, that is, mercy to the stability of cultural Judaism rather than mercy to minority Jews (i.e., Christians)? God bless you all. https://readingacts.com/2011/09/06/paul-a-hebrew-of-the-hebrews/. What was his first name? Dr. Ron Mosely and the archaeology team has gone through great lengths to disprove your theory by presenting actual archaeological evidence. On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? That is the order of address in near eastern culture and especially the Sanhedrin, being the Nazarite or the one ran by corrupted Pharisee and Sadducee. Evangelism is part of the Second Commandment given by Jesus, to Love people. If you Torah-observant Jews dont believe that the Yeshua (Jesus) of the 4 Gospels is really the Jewish Messiah, can you back that up with Torah and Nabiim ? So if our priorities are The Great Commission and the Great Commandment, we have our priorities upside down and confused, and we are not listening to the voice of Jesus. But there is a notable difference in Paul from pre- to post-conversion. . Paul was so entrenched in corrupted rabbinics (MAASE HATORAH ) that it clouded the vision of Messiah until Damscucs road. Yeshua himself even quotes these writings directly. But, Once an idea has been accepted by your subconscious, it remains there and it governs your behavior until it is replaced or changed. [ as a pastor named Bishop Dale C. Bronner observed in one of his sermons]. No accusation against the brothers No comments dark and obscure, Writing to the Church in Corinth that is what some of you were.. This comes from inconsciously believing Pauls mantra, the Evangelical Mantra, that All Scripure is God-breathed, and falsely assuming Paul was referring to every word in the 66 Books of the Bible. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. So approximately 1-2 years after the crucifixion and Resurrection. He uses these references quite often throughout many of his books in the NT. Im sorry that Christians cant come to grips in their confirmation bias that both Yeshua and Pauls ministries was infact Judaism.. In fact, it almost sounds as if he is name-dropping in order to impress people! Christians threatened his view and interpretation of the law until his conversion in Acts 9. He states that if the apostolic movement is from God then it cannot be stopped, if it is not form God then it cannot succeed. Since Paul clearly gives his yeshiva and his lineage, it shows he wasnt a Christian before and after Damascus. BOSS PAUL THE PHARISEE [sing it to the tune of Rapture by Blondie], Im Boss Paul, the Pharisee My hypocrisys plain for the world to see I travel the land and travel the sea to make a convert who is just like ME, All have sinned we know thats true but it never means ME it only means YOU My sins are all theoretical Im the worst of sinners- but dont ask where. When cult members repeat their mantra, it makes them deaf to the voice of God, unable to hear God. Here is how Jesus answered that question: #1 One of the teachers of the law asked him [Jesus], Of all the commandments, which is the most important?, The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: Hear, of Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. it is not uncommon for a student to disagree with his teachers viewpoints. Belivers in Yeshua adhered to Lev, 23 and worshipped on the true shabbat. Granted Shammaite pharisees love their Torah to that extent as well, but it is not a distinctly Shammaite practice. Paul probably understood Judaism better than all of these false teachers put together. He ignored your instructions that I passed on to him. Return to your own blog and post this stuff. This is not true, you have no idea what you are talking about. In fact, Paul describes himself as a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. So being an Apostle of Jesus involves being sent by Jesus, yes. Bibliography: Bruce Chilton, Rabbi Jesus 28-47; Gamaliel in ABD 2:904. As a Roman citizen, Paul possessed a coveted status Listen to Gamaliel. (11). Gamaliel Paul, in a speech to the Jews, tried to influence them by stating that he had been a student of Gamaliel ("I am a Jew, . FWIW, the name is spelled Ron Moseley. When he was younger, he used to have the great theological insight about territorial spirits and wrestling with dark angels. You have a rather closed worldview and are blind to what I have said. Perhaps a foundation stone? Paul was a Pharisee. The NIV headings were not part of the original text, and sometimes they can be misleading, but in this case I believe the heading is right on. What is a common analogy for a permanent decision? But let us not confuse the issue with facts. It is also possible that Paul adopted many of Gamaliels teachings but, due to his youthful age, he decided to be more proactive. The title of Adolf Hitler as the leader of the German Nazis, author of Mein Kamph. That is not really the case. It is possible that Paul was not of the Hillel form of Pharasism, but rather the more radical Shammaite party. Similar to my discussion with Sam above, the evidence for Pauls athletic metaphors is late, maybe 20 years after conversion. it seems like Gamaliels statement would be a good point to make in sharing the gospel message with people of the Jewish faith. The Bible says clearly that Paul in his words said he was a Paharisee and he that he sat under the teachings of Gamaliel. Your ignorant slander of Paul shows a deep seated hatred toward God and His word. Why do so many people frequently attack and tear down and dismiss the Original Apostles, particularly Peter, as if they were all incompetent, stupid, and wrong in so many ways, and they didnt even know what an Apostle was? Human teachers and influences, for some at least, did not matter. He says he is "of the tribe of Benjamin.". Acts 22:3 - "I am indeed a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the strictness of Ridiculous. Something I would like to believe, though! However I do travel to Dallas for Shavuot to visit one of Messianic Rabbis down there. Then, in Acts 22:3, Paul says that he was "brought up in this . What does tents mean in the Bible? Also known as Saul of Tarsus, he had been rescued by Roman troops and now faced the people from a stairway near the temple in Jerusalem. It seems that people want to limit the intervention of God in the lives of people he intends to use. because he said so. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). The first thing was that they might be with Him personally, together, for His entire earthly ministry, from the time of John the Baptist until Jesus rose to heaven. He also intimately knew Gamaliel was was there, at least at The time of Pentecost. Which is the most important? They also believed gentiles could convert and be in covenant but there needed to be structure to convert. Why not listen to Jesus, and His words written down and passed on by HIS faithful eyewitnesses, the Apostles HE personally appointed, and personally trained for over 3 years, Matthew and John? TWO. These mostly have something to do with marriage and divorce. Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it (Proverbs 22.6). We have no evidence that I know of to describe his attitude toward those things prior to his Damascus Road and Arabia experiences. But if we want to get closest to The Source, Jesus himself, it makes sense that we should look first to the eyewitness testimony of two of His appointed Apostles who walked with Him faithfully for over 3 years, Matthew & John. Dont ask us! But is it correct to characterize Paul as an ultra-conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view, namely, that Jesus was the Messiah and the High Priest killed him. Paul is a Hillel talmudim through and though. As for burying Stephen, even if Gamaliel was not a Christian he would have been motivated to care for the dead, as demonstrated in Tobit. So youd rather channel Constantine, anti semetic church fathers and bad book from amazon from authors who know absolutely nothing about Judaism or what they are even reading. Right the man has been in Israel for over 20 years and studied in a Yeshiva and created a University be he knows nothing about mainstream Judaism Yet you cant read a sentence of Hebrew to save your life. Later, when Im at the height of my career, and Im financially secure and I dont have to worry about finding a job or keeping my job, and I have some real influence- maybe 40 years from now, when Im, like, in my sixties, say in around 2013- thats when Ill really be able to stand up for Jesus. Mantra (noun) (Hinduism.) There are some points I agree and disagree with. This also convinces me that even though it seems he split from Gamaliel, early on, that did not change him into something completely opposite. His most recent book is The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World (Rockridge, 2022). This was where the institution derived its name, gymnos being the Greek word for naked. For Jews, nakedness was religiously offensive (11). By Paul being Jewish and involved in the gymnasium, he was going against the norm. Why follow a self-appointed voice that has given itself a special title like immaculate conception prophet apostle to the gentiles? These would be lofty words for a law abiding Pharisee to be speaking and Paul obviously saw Christ as the laws fulfillment. symphony kitchen spares; pink lily holiday dresses; hitch installation near me. It was the righteousness of the law summarized. Reblogged this on By the Mighty Mumford and commented: AN INTELLECTUAL OF THE TIME, PAUL LEARNED FROM THE BEST AND MOST COMPASSIONATE TEACHER AROUND! Ill have to change the names on these 12 chalkboards hundreds of times in the next couple of millennia. What were Pauls specific sins as a Christian? I know from the Scriptures that Paul Worship is wrong, but the entire Church Establishment says its right. The words of Jesus are superior to the words of everyone else in the Bible and to everyone else in the world. He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. When Hillel died in 10 AD, his son Simon (Gamaliel's father) took over Hillel's position as the nasi, which means president, of the Sanhedrin. Even Festus said that Paul was very learned, Acts 26:24. Matthias was qualified, appointed, and later recognized as part of The Twelve. ), Paul is a Hillel talmudim through and though. . Jesus calls us to Himself When The Show begins Were infants so He humors us Its Rocky and His Friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE. what is your source for that requirement? Very much the contrary. No, I DONT want Paul to act like a Pope controlling all aspects of the church from a distance yet reading Pauls 2 letters to the church, it is clear to me this is exactly what he was doing. Lets stick to what the Word says and not look for other answers which are not guaranteed but are assumptions. Rome is the city that sits on seven hills, the perfect place for Peter the Roman, the New World Pope for the New World Order, to replace the original Apostle Peter in the apostate church of the Antichrist. Why ignore the words of our Lord God Jesus Christ, Son of Yahweh the Most High God of Israel, who came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets? You will seek Him and find Him when you seek Him with all your heart.. To my Bible-believing Evangelical friends: If you have been reading some of my posts and you feel a spirit rising up inside you telling you: Hes wrong !!! If Saul is in fact a disciple of Gamaliel, then he seems to have a considerably different opinion on how to handle the apostolic witness when we meet him in Acts 9. In Gospel of John chapter 10, the Apostle John records many words of Jesus, including: My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me., I recommend reading the whole chapter (10), and listening to the voice of Jesus first (rather than the voice of a stranger like Paul first. Evidence for this more accommodating opinion is found in the book of Acts. When did Paul study under Gamaliel? Paul may be seeing this as another threat to the Law and acts as his predecessors did to preserve the culture and traditions of the Pharisaical movement and interpretations. However, there are other times when Paul puts his Christian beliefs and what Jesus has to say before the Pharisaical rules and is willing to break a rule or be mocked for something and instead, do something Jesus way. The Lord God Jesus the Jewish Messiah, Son of Yahweh the Most High God of Israel, said: All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO commandments. Not one. So the biggest problem with the church in Corinth was Paul himself, and his abusive absentee leadership style. Had Paul studied under the great rabbi Gamaliel, he would have learnt the scriptures in the Hebrew lan. When Hillel died, his son Simeon assumed his position, but Simeon died shortly after he took office. I dont think that he is a Christian pharisee however, I believe that he just holds close to the teachings that he received for over half of his life before his conversion. therefore I urge you to imitate me, and I have become all things to all men. Paul thinks hes Boss, and doesnt need to listen to your instructions that I gave him.. What is the meaning of Tentmaker? God wants to welcome anyone into His family who has the desire to seek, follow, obey, trust, and love God. Lets listen to the voice of Jesus first, and get our priorities straight. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). Sure im interested in dialgoue, however, if youre going to use replacement theology then were going to be at odds because im going to refute with what the bible actually says. Jesus poured his life into the 12 Apostles for 3 years very personally training them to be the leaders of the church, and Jesus chose Peter as first among equals. N. T. Wright describes the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah, as Hillel had said (What Saint Paul Really Said, 26). The Lord Our God is ONE God worship HIM.. This is a matter of defining ones terms. Paul did a much better job of marketing himself, and he wrote about himself hundreds of times. This is getting boring. In fact Paul was called Shaliach and Yeshua was called Rabbi. Acts recounts the times he faced persecution (13:45; 14:19) and risked his . He was raised in a Jewish society and home because everyone in the entire New Testament are Jews (or converts) who followed Torah. :the character and position of his father; his own early training in a Grecian city; and his subsequent training under Gamaliel at Jerusalem. This included sacrifices and multiple gods before and after the games. That is absolutely incorrect. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. But I am a Reformed Anglican. If anything Paul reacted on his duty to do what he thought was right and purify what was most important to him, the law. . The sentence begins with So in the NIV and Amplified Bibles, and Therefore in the NASB and King James Bibles, which ties 7:12 to the previous sentences. Any help is much appreciated, in advance! Luke writes: They cast [Stephen] out of the city and stoned him. First, Gamaliel was one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. a. Three hours, noon to 3 pm. Jesus and the Original Apostles knew what an Apostle is better than anyone else in the world. Yes I agree its a commandment given by Jesus, its not optional, and it applies to us today. They believe after reading his writings the law is done away with, you can eat what you want and he was anti Judaism. Im not sure if there is any evidence of Paul having any athletic prowess on the field but his understanding of Greek athletics is well documented. Islam is the truth, Allah Akbar/God is Greatest. Good point. The relics were found on 3 August AD 415. Menu. Listen to him! [Mark 9:7], The Apostle John recorded the testimony of John the Baptist: I have see and I testify that this is the Son of God. [John 1:34], In contrast, Hundreds of years later Muhammad came along and wrote: God has no son.. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection. [Acts 1:21-22]. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. Jesus never calls us out For what we used to be. I agree, It does make sense a Pharisee would be expected to be married, though. Acts 6:9 But resistance arose from what was called the Synagogue of the Freedmen, including Cyrenians, Alexandrians, and men from the provinces of Cilicia and Asia. (Not The Law the Prophets & the Writings, not All Scripture, not The whole Bible). STEP 6) LOOP- REPEAT steps 1 through 5, until your dance partner gives up, the audience gets bored, or the music stops. I want to bring my hippie friends to church- but how to I explain to them that its taboo to mention Pauls sins and doctrinal errors in church? These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon [Matthew 10:1]. The people who Paul persecuted were Diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that God raised Jesus from the dead. Im glad no one disagrees with me. The commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to its neighbor. The Acts of the 12 Apostles arent even Canonical but some trash letters that have brought nothing good to the world are exalted as scripture, which is because Paul says scripture in it, which actually is equal to Aggadah and not inspired or less important. I trust that no one is offended and that as a result of this comment, we might get closer to Him, The Truth. As to pauls seemingly at odds relationship with his teacher Gamaliel, it is no odd thing for a student to differ from a teacher, especially if the student is quite a zealous one. I guess I had better plan ahead, and save a slot for the last Pope, Francis. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. When Christ was first preached multitudes gladly received the word. See also John 17:17; Eph 5:17; Acts 2:41. Mark could be understood as the first core teachings of Peter and the other Apostles. There is no such thing as a Jewish-Christian or a Christian. It was no less difficult then, yet it was (Eastern Orthodox). Pharisee ruled that executions created a bloody Sanhedrin and if you had more than one a year, it was considered a bloody Sanhedrin. Polhil states that perhaps around the age of fourteen to sixteen Paul went to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel (Acts 22:3), (30). I got lots of note on it I thank God and I praise God. But after Paul went solo without Barnabas [Acts 15] I see no record that Paul ever appointed any elders in any church anywhere. Gamaliel is reported to have offered somewhat lenient advice concerning the early preaching of the apostles in Acts 5:34-39. For years now America has been stuck in a seemingly endless, unwinnable guerilla war in an Asian nation that borders China. take Paul leaving his honor spot of next chief of the Sanhedrin (being Gamaliel's student). He calls himself "of the people of Israel.". This is exactly what I am talking about, I have regularly posted articles on this blog saying the earliest Christians were Jewish and I often say in classes (and I am sure I have said it someplace here) that the earliest Christian theology (either Jesus or Paul) was quite similar to the Pharisees. Here are 5 to get the discussion started: .1) Pauls boastful conflicting false testimonies, exaggerating and making things up about his conversion experience in Acts 22 & 26, compared to what actually happened (recorded by Luke in Acts 9). Yes the Holy Spirit guided him in his writings, but part of being human is how we are shaped from our teachers and mentors. I am truly a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as you all are this day. teresa marina tabucchi; antonia reininghaus daughter; mountain view ar tornado 1996; safari photography settings; catfish bite force; professional executor services Since the entire ministry framework both Yeshua and Paul are 100% Jewish, meaning adherence oral and written law, you are to view it from that lense. To which Paul replied, youre fired. Paul then took his team of painters, and started painting the garage and the house. Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. That is a good question, I am not sure if anyone has ever asked me that before! But he certainly does not handle the NT very well from what I have read. If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. Which owner would be upset if we finished early? In Acts 14:23, we read: Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church. Phillip J. Yet Jesus is the object of worship, turned into a false god believed to be confirmed in a book that actually refutes it! Thanks also for your series on New Perspectives. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. Thanks for the pointer. Nave's Topical Index. Created by. Paul was probably making reference to some of the Hebrew Scriptures, quite likely including the Law and the Prophets. Match. This became an issue in front of the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15). Even if someone wants to be argumentative and say we cant prove that Judas wasnt there at the time, we certainly cant prove that Judas WAS there. If he came to cancel the law why is he adhering and implementing Torah and following the laws passed by the Sanhedrin? 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